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TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: PS3 Netflix Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:37 am | |
| "Unlike Netflix streaming on other devices, the PS3 requires the Netflix Streaming Disc for PS3. That means you'll need to request a disc from Netflix and it will come in the mail like a standard Netflix movie. It doesn't count against your allotment of movies allowed out and you never need to return the disc. The disc uses Blu-ray's BD-Live functionality to enable streaming, and this is by far the best use of BD-Live we've seen so far. Once you insert the Netflix Streaming Disc, it shows up in the XMB in the video section. Select Netflix from the XMB and the experience is largely identical to streaming Netflix on other devices, with a few new features. The main interface shows you the cover art of the movies in your instant queue, arranged horizontally. If you select a movie, it will show a screen with more detailed information, a summary of the plot, and a star rating. You're also able to scroll horizontally within the more detailed view, without having to return to the main screen. If you stop watching a movie, you're able to resume where you left off or start again from the beginning. The step-up over standard streaming Netflix devices are the tabs at the top of the interface. With other devices, like the Roku Digital Video Player, you're only able to access movies that you've added to your Instant Queue using a PC. On the PS3, you're given some additional tabs that allow you to browse new arrivals, movies Netflix thinks you'll like, and categories you use often. That's not quite as good as the Xbox 360's Netflix interface, which allows you to add new titles to your instant queue without using a PC, but it's a welcome addition to the basic Netflix streaming available on other devices. While we've seen some reports that the image quality of streaming Netflix isn't quite as good as it is on the Xbox 360, we didn't notice any significant quality drop-offs in our testing. In our experience, the image quality of streaming Netflix movies is basically identical across devices. We've commented extensively on the image quality in previous hands-on reports, but the main takeaway is that the content labeled "HD" is nearly DVD quality. The other content is watchable, but videophiles will definitely notice plenty of compression artifacts. The major frustration with Netflix on the PS3 is that you need to insert the special disc to use the service. That's not the case with Netflix streaming on any other device so far and couch potatoes will complain about that extra trip to the PS3 every time they want to stream a movie. That being said, we're willing to live with the compromise. As we understand it, the use of a disc is simply a workaround for Netflix's prior agreement with Microsoft to be the only game console with Netflix streaming as part of the software. In that case, we definitely prefer having this optional workaround to no streaming at all. (It appears that Microsoft's exclusivity deal ends in late 2010, at which time Sony can properly integrate Netflix into the software, so you won't need the disc.)
It's also worth pointing out that there's no additional cost (beyond a Netflix subscription) to use Netflix on the PS3; Xbox 360 owners need to have an Xbox Gold Live subscription, which goes for $50 a year."With Netflix and Facebook here (even more integration coming soon) and Twitter, apps and 3-D coming, the PS3 is finally realizing it's full potential as a full media device. The streaming is really dope, SD looks decent and HD looks great. I rent my must see movies on blu-ray (best quality) and then I stream tv shows and other movies I just wanna check out.
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| | | tuffmuff THE 1st Lady*
Post # : 3462 Age : 42 Location : H-town, Texas Status : keeping my peace
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:32 am | |
| I watch a lot of TV shows via PSN. Its awesome and I don't have to worry about being tied down to a certain time. | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:35 pm | |
| What do you mean, you keep Netflix discs as long as you want, and streaming is unlimited. | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:24 pm | |
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| | | TX11 Civilian
Post # : 112 Age : 40 Location : New York and not the city
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:17 pm | |
| For the 360 users who complain about changing discs i simply say "You already change discs to play games, but i guess you 360 owners will have a good time changing blu ray discs." I read that in an online article slamming the 360 for lacking blu ray support. | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:09 pm | |
| Exactly TX, NO different from watching a blu-ray. The disc is JUST a work-around, becase MS dropped FagBox first and copyrighted and patented just about EVERYTHING they could with XBL. Netflix, custom soundtracks, MS patented all that, so Sony has to be shrewd with PSN. They have to find ways to match Live without infringing on MS' patents (leaving custom soundtracks up to the developers, disc-based Netflix)
Also the XMB wasn't originally designed with anything like this in mind, it originally was just an intuitive menu for the PSP and it's Bravia HDTV's. These are the reasons why seemingly simple things like cross game chat yet, haven't been implemented as of yet.
But most of MS' copyrights are temporary and Sony is improving PSN steadily and by Q2 2010 should be on equal footing if not better than XBL. | |
| | | TX11 Civilian
Post # : 112 Age : 40 Location : New York and not the city
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:29 pm | |
| the way that ms set up the 360 was lame. They launched a year earlier no problem there. But because of that year they did exactly what you said bought up exclusive rights on everything i think that this is kind of a monopoly and should be illegal. I have no problem with exclusive games or dlc like gta4's dlc only on 360 but i do see it as lame and should not be allowed that they are allowed to get exclusives on services such as netflix. Its all about the money. Sony should have never lost exclusives like gta. In the end i strongly believe that sony will eventually surpass the 360 and ms will need to develop a new console just to compete we already know that nintendo will. Games like Uncharted 2 that truely show what can be done with the ps3's hardware when used right and not designed to run on both consoles is a testament to what the ps3 is capable of. A blu ray disk holds 50 times more data then a dvd disk imagine what game developers who make multi platform games like call of duty, GTA4 and assassins creed could put in there games if they didn't develop to be equal. I feel like i am being ripped off when i buy games like call of duty because they run on the 360 on a dvd disk. The same content is just copied to a blu ray and works on ps3. they didn't even fill half of the blu ray disk when they have already run out of room on the 360's dvd disk. Because of this type of shit the ps3 is actually being dragged down or held back because of ms console using last gen media formats. In the end of 2010 the exclusive deal ms has with netflix is up and sony will integrate it into the system software like anything else. What is the big deal with cross game chat why is this so important. We have 2 different ways of communication with friends on other games through the create a message option or join a text chat together. I personally could give a shit about cross game chat because usually when i play i have my mic on to use with the game i am playin not to talk to someone else who is playing something else and could really give two shits as to what i have to say while they are kickin ass on their game. if cross game chat comes on to ps3 so be it if not my feelings aren't hurt any. | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:45 am | |
| Well TX, curr-gen is a two man race between Sony and MS. Nintendo is in it's own category with the Wii, and NO ONE can match they're sales. The Wii is a cheap system in a niche category and even though they're by far #1, the Wii isn't a curr-gen system. MS currently has more systems sold and holds the market share over Sony and they were first to drop. Also the 360 is the inferior system technology-wise and is easier to develop for, so add all those up and the 360 is the lead platform for all multi-platform games. Whereas last-gen, the PS2 was the lead platform and ruled the industry with an iron fist.
Developers usually start with the 360 first and THEN adjust the code to make the PS3 version, also the cell processor is harder to develop for. Rarely do they develop both separately, why? Because the PS3 version would take longer to develop due to the cell processor being much more advanced. And more than likely the PS3 version would look CONSIDERABLY better and that would f**k multi- games up and mess up they're sales (everyone with both systems would just buy the PS3 version and in turn it would crush the 360). Now if you notice, in the beginning of the console wars, the 360 versions looked slightly better and ran slightly smoother (still does in some cases, like Bayonetta). Not MUCH better, but better. It's just that the developers won't take the extra time to fully utilize the cell processor. Now when developers actually DO, the result is a masterpiece like Uncharted 2 (looks better and runs smoother than Gears of War 2). And the crazy thing is that Naughty Dog says that Uncharted couldn't be done on the 360 at all and that they didn't even push the cell processor to the max! They say that the PS3 won't be maxed out for another couple of years, while the 360 has been maxed out graphically.
It's smart business on the developers end, it's not like they put our crap games or anything. Even though they all deny it, they just don't take the extra time with the PS3 versions. The 360 is by no means a slouch technology-wise, the PS3 is simply more powerful, with more capabilities. And most importantly, MS runs the world and has more money than Sony, they've stolen many of our exclusives. MS, just flat out buys whatever they want and need. The way they get around being a "monopoly" is that many of they're patents and copyrights are timed exclusive. For instance they had a 5-year contract on Netflix. Consider this, MS paid $50+ MILLION for the exclusive rights to the GTA IV DLC, $50+ MILLION! THAT'S AS MUCH AS THE ENTIRE PRODUCTION BUDGET OF MODERN WARFARE 2, JUST FOR TWO EDPISODES OF DLC!!! Did they make they're money back, of course not, not everyone bought the DLC. But it helped MS sell more consoles, so MS can afford to take a loss now, to gain more market share to make a profit on the back end.
You can't be mad at Bill Gates and Microsoft for how they operate, they're intelligent, shrewd and will use they're staggering resources to crush the competition. I can relate, we have a very similar institution here in New York, it's called George Steinbrenner and the New York Yankees! So it's not like the good ol' PS2 days where we ran shit and had all the exclusives. So these days, publishers and developers have to go multi-platform to make the most money. So we lose the GTA's and Devil May Cry's and worst of all the FINAL FANTASY's!!!Besides fanboy pride, the problem with the current state of multi-platforming, is that the 360 holds back the quality of some games. Because both versions have to be near identical, the 360 holds our version back. The best example would be FFXIII, the graphics have been scaled back to accommodate the 360, which f**cking sucks for us PS3'ers. And it's still gonna take three or four DVD's on the 360 to fit the game onto our ONE blu-ray. Why do you think that Square Enix is making ANOTHER PS3 exclusive XIII (FFXIII Versus), because they know they scaled back on the multi-platform XIII.
Rockstar is also "making it up to us" for giving they're baby to the clutches of MS as well. Were getting two exclusives from them, Agent and LA Noir, which will push the capabilities of the PS3. So things aren't so bad, yes we lost our top exclusives, but were gonna get new exclusives in return. It's kind of a cycle, the developers get suitcases of back alley of "bribe money" (LMAO) from MS to steal up our exclusives and DLC. They turn around and take that money and make a new exclusive for us, LOL. Now the good thing is that things are finally starting to change, were gaining on MS and WILL win this console generation eventually. The Slim has been the smash-hit boost we needed, the $300 price-point is affordable in this economy and forced MS AND Nintendo to lower their prices to compete. How well do you think Bill Gates slept when he realized that you can now get a PS3 for only a little more than the price of a Wii?! LMFAO! Also starting with U2, all of our best exclusives are gonna start dropping too, the next six months alone are gonna be crazy. MS has NO answer for that whatsoever, what another Halo?! LMAO, f**k outta here!
Also PSN will overtake XBL as well, they announced Facebook integration, well so did we. The new Premium PSN will be the nail in the coffin for XBL. When it comes to cross-game chat, it's what the majority of PS3 users ask for TX, it's the last trump card XBL has over us currently. Honestly it would be nice to always chat with the clan, despite us being on different games. Text chat and always having to go to the chat-room is annoying. Also that would make Home A LOT more enjoyable, we could have private open chats in there as well. Also, developers are finally getting used to the cell processor and are finding it easier to work with. MS' only answer would be to release a new Xbox early (which they said they won't do). But either way, the PS3 is future-proof, Sony pack as much forward thinking technology into is as possible. So even if they did release a new one, we'd STILL be able to compete with them easily. Things are definitely looking up for Sony. | |
| | | tuffmuff THE 1st Lady*
Post # : 3462 Age : 42 Location : H-town, Texas Status : keeping my peace
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:02 am | |
| wow... we're writing books | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:44 pm | |
| LOL, not intentionally. Just a dialogue between two well-informed guys. Your quite welcome to join the conversation, Sarah. | |
| | | tuffmuff THE 1st Lady*
Post # : 3462 Age : 42 Location : H-town, Texas Status : keeping my peace
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:26 pm | |
| Its Muff to you Mr. Walston.... get it straight | |
| | | TonyAlmighty Consigliere*
Post # : 1744 Age : 43 Location : Westcheddar, NY Status : "Amateurs talk strategy. PROFESSIONALS talk logistics."
| | | | GenXGamer Civilian
Post # : 892 Age : 51 Location : Southern Cal Status : on Sabaticle, leave a message...Beeeeep
| Subject: Re: PS3 Netflix Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:40 pm | |
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